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 Post subject: Heads up to potential or returning Yellowstone workers
PostPosted: 01/17/18 07:13 
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This is more of a warming to potential Yellowstone workers.

We have been getting wind that Park County Wyoming will begin enforcing a state law requiring out of state worker $50 per month, per vehicle fee. A quick google search confirmed the prevailing wind.

A car and an RV equals $100,00 per month, up to four months. After that you have to register the vehicles in Wyoming. When you register the vehicles that requires transferring the title to a Wyoming title. Doesn't your driver's license have to match your plates? Then you get to change your insurance. The full season puts all seasonal park employees into the change everything category. Not to mention seasonal employees have a PO Box address. Those aren't acceptable for DMV purposes. Talk about a can of worms!

The articles from the media indicates that Xanterra and Delaware North will be informing their employees. I can't speak about Xanterra but we applied, and got hired, at Delaware North. We haven't heard a word from them about this. My suspicion is they will wait for people to arrive then drop the bomb shell.

Every state has some kind of similar language about registering vehicles for long term residents. But never a monthly fee.

Questions I have:
What is the fine if you get caught?
How in the world will they enforce it?
How will they know who is working and who isn't?
Will the federal park rangers be required/permitted to enforce local jurisdiction laws?
How will the park service volunteers fit it?
Are they going after all seasonal workers or just those on the park?
What is the meaning of life?


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 Post subject: Re: Heads up to potential or returning Yellowstone workers
PostPosted: 01/23/18 14:39 
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This past weekend we attended a big RV show in Tampa, Fl. As we walked around we came across the booth from Delaware North(employers at Yellowstone). We had a nice chat with the folks in the booth and I put the question to them about the fees. It seems that they have heard about the fees but only through this forum. Delaware North has not mentioned a word about the fee to any of their employees ..yet. This will be very interesting how this plays out. We plan on being in the Yellowstone area for the next 2 or 3 summers and this could have an impact on that. Luckily, this years job is in a campground in West Yellowstone, Mt so there's no problem there.

Stop by the fire and sit for a bit,

Paul & Linda
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 Post subject: Re: Heads up to potential or returning Yellowstone workers
PostPosted: 02/06/18 11:27 
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Delaware North actually did address send out a letter.

“By now you have all most likely heard that the State of Wyoming has decided to enforce a 2009 law requiring temporary residents to register their out of state vehicles in their respective counties. As to why we haven't shared this information with you before now, we chose not to be proactive with disseminating second hand, partial or incorrect information. Truth of the matter is that we have not received any official information to send you.

While most of us, if not all (concessions and NPS) do not support the State of Wyoming regulation, it is not new. It was written into law in 2009 but the Wyoming Department of Transportation has chosen to enforce the regulation this year, specifically in Park County, WY. There is no official word about enforcement within Yellowstone National Park boundaries but considering this mandate effects several hundred seasonal, volunteer & contract workers who work for the National Park Service, we assume they share our concerns as do Xanterra and YPSS.

With all of this information and the information you have found in the news and on the internet, it is ultimately your decision to register or not register your vehicle(s). Our responsibility is to provide as much information as possible and as I mentioned earlier, we have not received any official documentation as to effective date, terms of enforcement, etc. You are welcomed to contact the County Officials of your location and share your dissatisfaction with their decision to enforce the law starting 2018.”

I have decided to go and be as positive as possible about it and enjoy this chapter in my life.. I don’t think anyone’s really knows what’s going to happen.


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 Post subject: Re: Heads up to potential or returning Yellowstone workers
PostPosted: 02/09/18 08:30 
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We got the same form letter when we told them thanks but no thanks. We did some digging and called the clerks offices as they suggested. My problem with DNC's handling of it is this story broke in October. Not a word from them until February. What has happened is not DNC's fault by any stretch. But they could have been up front about it.

The law is actually much older than 2009, the last fee increase was in 2009. You can purchase one temporary permit. it can either be 30, 60, 90 or 120 days. It seems you can't go month to month. But, most of the park's seasonal employees will fall into the over 120 day category and be required to change vehicle registrations, change driver's licenses, change vehicle titles and change your vehicle insurance all to the Wyoming address. The fun part of this would be your only mailing address is a PO Box. DMV doesn't accept a PO Box address. And if they come up a generic mailing address for all park seasonal workers you would end up with hundreds of licensed drivers at the same address. Something insurance companies look at. Then change them back when you return home.

We think there are two possibilities. One is it will might be weaponized by the local authorities. They are seeing dollar signs. The other possibility is it is much ado about nothing. We are leaning to the local elected officials and other people's money theory prevailing.

Some of our friends are going to chance it and hope for the best. And if they get busted - leave. Some of our friends are not going to work on the park at all but will be working in the area (not in Wyoming). Some are going someplace completely different.

What we haven't found out is if a person were to get a "fix-it ticket" for improper registration and not fix it but leave the state, what becomes of that ticket. Moving violation? Failure to pay? Wyoming Title 31 Chapter 4 is pretty clear.

While we see Ronald's point of view, we have the dumb luck of being the example Wyoming uses to show Yellowstone workers "we mean business." We will be working in the area with our popcorn ready.


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